The risk of linking tweets in official websites - immediate reply shown is someone complaining the project funded 2 days ago hasn't published their results.
halJordan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The wording of the title and first paragraph do imply that it is a series of models being announced. Not the concepts of a series of models
hankman86 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Looks like the typical EU wannabe competition to US Big Tech to me. Like Europe’s Google competitor, Europe’s cloud service, Europe’s operating system and so on.
Like these projects, OpenEuroLLM will go nowhere.
It is always the same approach that never works: First they assemble the usual mix of organisations from all sorts of countries, making sure all the major EU member nations are represented. Then they give the project some moronic goals (they state “compliance” as the #1 objective - wtf?).
The EU commission will pour millions in taxpayer money into this, which is nevertheless not remotely enough to match with the funds raised by US AI companies. And half the money for OpenEuroLLM will be spent on extensive bureaucracy where they have to write lengthy progress reports, pass audits by EU bureaucrats, etc. Not to mention the sizeable travel budget for the people involved. And finally, they may end up with prototypes that (1) nobody asked for and for which there is no market, (2) which do not work well/at all and (3) which are abandoned once the project ends.
project2501a [3 hidden]5 mins ago
So, what you are saying is be part of the deliverable, get a good chunk of the budget but one that does not stand out, maybe have a second partner that does not share your last name, do minimal work, enjoy brunch wherever you land?
hankman86 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The hallmarks of EU funded R&D projects.
zekrioca [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I am not understanding what is the issue here, or what is it that you are suggesting. Should the EU not do anything?
hankman86 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
They should — like scrapping bureaucracy and regulation that is hostile to innovation and costly for businesses. The AI Act, the Digital Services Act, the Digital Markets Act, the EU Supply Chain Law, the GDPR etc. are all well intended. Albeit born out of anxiety and a false sense to be able to shield Europe from the bad consequences of modern technology. In effect, these regulations create a culture that is toxic for innovation. Resulting in venture capital avoiding Europe and founders leaving for better shores (ie. the US) to create the next billion dollar company.
By contrast, what the EU should absolutely, categorically NOT do is to create projects like this one. With an absurd number of participating organisations, dysfunctional project goals (like “compliance”) and the ballooning bureaucracy that ensues. What talent are they hoping to attract to this project? Any AI researcher with half a brain would avoid OpenEuroLLM, lest he (or she) drag down his (or her) career and waste precious lifetime for what is guaranteed to turn into another tombstone on Europe’s graveyard of ridiculous publicly funded technology projects.
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Like these projects, OpenEuroLLM will go nowhere.
It is always the same approach that never works: First they assemble the usual mix of organisations from all sorts of countries, making sure all the major EU member nations are represented. Then they give the project some moronic goals (they state “compliance” as the #1 objective - wtf?).
The EU commission will pour millions in taxpayer money into this, which is nevertheless not remotely enough to match with the funds raised by US AI companies. And half the money for OpenEuroLLM will be spent on extensive bureaucracy where they have to write lengthy progress reports, pass audits by EU bureaucrats, etc. Not to mention the sizeable travel budget for the people involved. And finally, they may end up with prototypes that (1) nobody asked for and for which there is no market, (2) which do not work well/at all and (3) which are abandoned once the project ends.
By contrast, what the EU should absolutely, categorically NOT do is to create projects like this one. With an absurd number of participating organisations, dysfunctional project goals (like “compliance”) and the ballooning bureaucracy that ensues. What talent are they hoping to attract to this project? Any AI researcher with half a brain would avoid OpenEuroLLM, lest he (or she) drag down his (or her) career and waste precious lifetime for what is guaranteed to turn into another tombstone on Europe’s graveyard of ridiculous publicly funded technology projects.